And there’s points where they told Sony, ‘Hey, if you give us a little more, we’ll license all the Marvel characters to you.’ And Sony said we’re good, thank you. There’s these pivotal moments at the beginning where, without getting into the whole history of Marvel’s bankruptcies, but they basically licensed out characters like Spider-Man (and) the X-Men to others. “I think I have much more appreciation now for the work that went into building this. Eventually, they will make an X-Men movie and audiences will go nuts.”Īfter writing this book with Joanna and David, do you still view the MCU the same as when you started? Has anything changed in your opinion of it from all the research y’all did? They haven’t released an Avengers movie in a few years. They still haven’t made a Fantastic Four movie. And so we refer to it amongst ourselves as ‘the wobble.’ I think Marvel is going to be okay, they’ve got some things in their pocket they haven’t used yet. “Joanna and David started researching the book around the time of ‘Avengers: Endgame.’ So basically Marvel’s apex moment with the biggest movie of all-time, the blockbuster triumph where you go to a movie theater with 20 screens and 19 of them are showing ‘Avengers: Endgame.’ Since then, Marvel has had multiple movies (and) they’ve all made money, but it no longer presents the solid goal: everything stands for quality. But they’ve had some detours (the death of Chadwick Boseman, legal issues facing Jonathan Majors) so what does that mean for the future? Does that reshape how they plan their next phases? A lot of the “old guard” has moved on (Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johansson) and they’re introducing new characters and stars. Marvel is entering an interesting period for their movies. But there’s always been some ability to zig and zag.” So around that time is when they started to plan out a little more in advance and say, ‘oh, like, we could lead up to these things in a multi-year kind of way. had this contract that ended up paying him $50 million dollars for ‘The Avengers’ because it was like, if ‘The Avengers’ happens then fine, we don’t mind paying you that much money. But I mean, ‘The Avengers’ was kind of a pipe dream. And hey, that all kind of adds up to the Avengers. Maybe we’ve got Ant Man and Captain America in reserve. “So at the beginning, they had said let’s do Iron Man and the Hulk. Was that a plan that Marvel had for their movies or did the path for the narrative just come up along the way? The first phase of MCU movies up to “The Avengers” was so successful and seemed to have this mapped out path. The first “Guardians” was a big step in the formation of the MCU, according to Gavin Edwards. From left, Karen Gillan as Nebula, Chris Pratt as Peter Quill/Star-Lord, and Dave Bautista as Drax in Marvel Studios’ ”Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.
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